WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Banjo 9:29 Sat Aug 23
BFS opens his big mouth again.
Yet another example BFS of contradicting Sullivan. Come on David, show him the door.

C&P SSN.

Sam Allardyce has admitted West Ham will need to produce something special if they are to finish any higher than 10th in the Premier League.

The Hammers endured an inconsistent 2013-14 campaign as they laboured to 13th, but co-chairmen David Sullivan and David Gold believe Allardyce is the right man to have them challenging for European football this season.

Sullivan has lofty ambitions for the club, insisting they should be aiming for the top six rather than a solid mid-table finish.

Back in May, he said: "I don't want to just aim for the top 10. We should be aiming for the top six. I want to be looking down the table not up it next season."

But Allardyce has tempered expectations of a first top-six finish since 1999, and he believes repeating of their top-half finish two years ago is the limit of what the club can hope for.

"We're trying to build a team that gets where we want to go," he said.

"Let's not forget that year one was a massive overachievement which built expectation. Finishing 10th in your first year (after promotion) is a major success, and there's a backlash to that success always in the game - not just at West Ham, but wherever you are.

"Do fans think you should finish 11th? No, they think you should finish ninth, eighth or seventh. You've always got to live with the expectation but we have to stay real and say that if we have a very good season, we can finish better than 10th.

"We'll be around 10th or 11th in the Premier League I think. That's somewhere we want to try and achieve; it's year three for us - it's not year one or two - we should be looking more to establish ourselves rather than hopefully worrying about relegation."

Allardyce has been backed in the transfer market this summer and has brought in seven new faces, including big deals for Enner Valencia and Cheikhou Kouyate.

But the 59-year-old reckons budget and financial clout are the main factors as to what a club can realistically aim to achieve.

'Across the board, you generally finish around where your wage budget lies," he said.

"If you've got the biggest wage budget then you're more than likely to finish in and around the top four, generally. And then you've got your 10th or above, then you've got below 10th and then you've got the bottom end.

"Over the last five or 10 years, most teams finish around where their wage budget is. There are obviously some anomalies in that - some teams one season can have a particularly good season and some teams have a particularly poor season."

Sullivan's statement could be seen to put pressure on Allardyce's position if the Hammers do not make an early impression, but Allardyce added: "In terms of what the chairmen and the fans expect, all that's fine.

"We can all say that and I want the same, but the reality is we know how to get there - whether we'll get there is another factor on various anomalies as we go through the season.

"For instance, this week - and it's only game two - we may only have one centre-half fit and that's the last thing you want when you're going into a new season when you're talking about the same problems you had last December. Already we're feeling the pinches on the value of the team and the selection process that make or break your season."

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Darby_ 9:34 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
What did he say that you object to?

ted fenton 9:39 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
I watched him being interviewed and the man is a slob !

stewie griffin 9:41 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Agree with what he says here generally.

Only bit I'd object to are his comments about finishing where your wages are. Don't really like the message that sends (remember martinez talking last year about being creative in order to challenge the big spenders) , but more importantly, he's previously talked of finishing where your transfer spend allows. Considering our net outlay since his arrival is in the top 6 of the premier league it's rather convenient that he's opted to ditch that line now.

whu 9:41 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
his entire waffling bullshit piece is so flawed, i'll let others do what needs to be done

ALLARDYCE IS AN ANTI-FOOTBALL, SELF PROMOTING, DINOSAUR CUNT, KILLING THIS CLUB

that's my summary

simon.s 9:44 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking
When I said I'd like to smash every tooth
In your head

Oh...sweetness, sweetness, I was only joking
When I said by rights you should be
Bludgeoned in your bed

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
As the flames rose to her roman nose
And her Walkman started to melt
Oh...

Bigmouth, la...bigmouth, la...
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race

Oh, bigmouth, la ... bigmouth, la
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
As the flames rose to her roman nose
And her hearing aid started to melt

Bigmouth, la...bigmouth, la...
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race
Oh...

Bigmouth, oh...bigmouth, la...
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race
Oh...

Bigmouth, oh...bigmouth, la
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race
Oh...

Bigmouth, oh...bigmouth, la
Bigmouth strikes again
And I've got no right to take my place
With the Human race
Oh

charlie paynter 10:00 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
It's a shame your league position doesn't depend on your manager's salary. We'd have finished in the top 6 and got to the knockout stages of the Champions League.

Baggins 10:02 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Doesn't say anything silly there really.

I'm disappointed there's no mention of KPI's though.

SullyHammer 10:04 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
I do not disagree with what he is saying to be honest. We are not a top 6 team, squad wise anyway. The owners have spent well over the last few years but the quality of player we have been able to attract has not been that great, bar a few.

I would be very happy with a top 9/10 position, especially with his last season in charge. Sullivan must have been buzzing the day he said he expects a top 6 position, if that is to happen we need a fairly big overhaul in terms of personnel and squad. No way are we going to achieve a top 6 position with the likes of Nolan, Cole and Collins in the first XI.

bell 10:04 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
the selection process that make or break your season."




Erm.. The selection process, that erm, you select Sam? That's always the same? That one?

Monk~koknee 10:05 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
stewie griffin 9:41 Sat Aug 23

You might think that he would consider exceeding your position based on salary or transfers would be an excellent KPI for quality of manager.

Roeder-nowhere 10:06 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Last sentence.. HIS team selection, HIS lack of defensive cover! Why was HE not more prepared??
He is lining up
his excuses already and lowering his expectations to that he had had ALL his career! No trophies, mid to lower table finish! Nevermind tenth, what about the important difference in terms of points between us and 3rd from
bottom? He ignores that...

Roeder-nowhere 10:08 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Then again.. West Ham fans are DELUDED eh sam???

Alfs 10:09 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Not a fan of the man but this is digging him out for no reason. 10th would be an achievement, and anything above would exceed expectations.

jimbo2. 10:12 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
I agree with Alfs, 10th would be more than acceptable to me and a good platform to build from!

Paulie Cashews 10:13 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
I'm struggling to see what the problem is with this article

chelmsfordhammer 10:15 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Some of you really need to get a life. Dissecting everything the bloke says and trying to turn it into negative doesn't make the chances of him being sacked anymore likely. It just makes some of you look like sad individuals who have nothing better to do all day than trawl in the internet looking for another thing to moan about.

riosleftsock 10:15 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Sullivan said "I do not want to be aiming at a top ten finish. I want to be aiming at top six"

Sully interprets this as "Sullivan must have been buzzing the day he said he expects a top 6 position"

Can you see the difference?

terry-h 10:18 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
He doesn't think Valencia and Sakho are 'quite ready' yet persists with two slow plodders up front. Zarate is not his buy so he benches him. Other clubs have injury problems and do the necessary adjustments.

He's getting his excuses in early for his post match blame game.

I repeat, Sullivan made a massive mistake not bringing in a replacement manager months ago and we are now witnessing the actions of a man who doesn't really want to be there and wants out with a year's money to add to his retirement fund.

Johnson 10:19 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
He's such a cunt, I'm on the train to Palace so not even getting involved in this.

Far Cough 10:21 Sat Aug 23
Re: BFS opens his big mouth again.
Johnson, you left GLOLcester early for this

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